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		<title>By: Adam Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee, Peter, and Lisa -

You are right. We have not listened carefully enough to our licensees concerns in the past and that has changed. All I can ask is that you let us help you build your business using the improvements that we have made in the areas that you mention. We now have Lifetime support, Live answer 800#, email response is less than 4 hours in most cases, added more support staff, lowered the system fees, and more. 

Yes, anyone can purchase billing software and take some coding courses. But again, if you don&#039;t know how to effectively market to doctors, the best software and coding skills are not going to do much good. Our Coding service (which may be new to some of you) utilizes coders who are already trained and certified so YOU can start making money much more quickly than if you were to go to school to learn coding.

Not every licensee is going to succeed in this business. That is a fact. But we are working hard to provide access to the best tools and training available to give everyone the opportunity to succeed.

Please call me at 866-565-8413 x 103 anytime.

Adam Phillips</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee, Peter, and Lisa -</p>
<p>You are right. We have not listened carefully enough to our licensees concerns in the past and that has changed. All I can ask is that you let us help you build your business using the improvements that we have made in the areas that you mention. We now have Lifetime support, Live answer 800#, email response is less than 4 hours in most cases, added more support staff, lowered the system fees, and more. </p>
<p>Yes, anyone can purchase billing software and take some coding courses. But again, if you don&#8217;t know how to effectively market to doctors, the best software and coding skills are not going to do much good. Our Coding service (which may be new to some of you) utilizes coders who are already trained and certified so YOU can start making money much more quickly than if you were to go to school to learn coding.</p>
<p>Not every licensee is going to succeed in this business. That is a fact. But we are working hard to provide access to the best tools and training available to give everyone the opportunity to succeed.</p>
<p>Please call me at 866-565-8413 x 103 anytime.</p>
<p>Adam Phillips</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Save your money and go to medical billing school!  ABS only teaches you how to market your medical billing business.  If you do not take the time to learn about coding it is very difficult to sell to a practice no matter how good the marketing material is.  I invested in ABS and I am very frustrated .  
I wish all of these comments were posted prior to my investment.  Take this information to the bank with your $20k.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Save your money and go to medical billing school!  ABS only teaches you how to market your medical billing business.  If you do not take the time to learn about coding it is very difficult to sell to a practice no matter how good the marketing material is.  I invested in ABS and I am very frustrated .<br />
I wish all of these comments were posted prior to my investment.  Take this information to the bank with your $20k.</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 18:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to JK. I read his rip off report link with an open mind up to the point that he stated the bankruptcy filings. Bankruptcy happens. Especially in this economy. Heck, Donald Trump has filed a couple times himself! Sorry but I must dismiss your post as I feel that report was filed by someone with an ax to grind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to JK. I read his rip off report link with an open mind up to the point that he stated the bankruptcy filings. Bankruptcy happens. Especially in this economy. Heck, Donald Trump has filed a couple times himself! Sorry but I must dismiss your post as I feel that report was filed by someone with an ax to grind.</p>
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		<title>By: shilo</title>
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		<dc:creator>shilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question to Dee:
You said: &quot;I have had better luck with buying my own billing software and using a clearinghouse that I have found on the internet and I think you can use the same clearinghouse as ABS uses if you like them, and I did this for under $1,000.&quot;

Dee, could you tell us which billing software and clearinghouse you are using?
And is your client a doctor&#039;s office that you are using that for? 

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question to Dee:<br />
You said: &#8220;I have had better luck with buying my own billing software and using a clearinghouse that I have found on the internet and I think you can use the same clearinghouse as ABS uses if you like them, and I did this for under $1,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dee, could you tell us which billing software and clearinghouse you are using?<br />
And is your client a doctor&#8217;s office that you are using that for? </p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dakim:

I came across your site I think you need to do more research on the company. I came across this before I decided to purchase a license it seems that this person has scammed numerous individuals prior to getting into medical billing.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-home-business/american-business-sy/american-business-systems-llc-7eacc.htm

I noticed there has not been any response from the founders son on the issues that keep appearing on this site and others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dakim:</p>
<p>I came across your site I think you need to do more research on the company. I came across this before I decided to purchase a license it seems that this person has scammed numerous individuals prior to getting into medical billing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-home-business/american-business-sy/american-business-systems-llc-7eacc.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.ripoffreport.com/work-at-home-business/american-business-sy/american-business-systems-llc-7eacc.htm</a></p>
<p>I noticed there has not been any response from the founders son on the issues that keep appearing on this site and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 17:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter,  Thank you for all of your information about this company, I hope more people will find this helpful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter,  Thank you for all of your information about this company, I hope more people will find this helpful.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 23:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Peter for the in depth analysis.  This is exactly what my readers need to help them make a decision about ABS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Peter for the in depth analysis.  This is exactly what my readers need to help them make a decision about ABS.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading this go to 

http://dihasstories.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/american-billing-systems/

It seems that this has been done before according to Ken. 

Although I have not purchased a license from ABS direcltly I am working as a salesperson for one of their licensees. I took the position hoping to one day to purchase a license and run my own business in the near future. I liked what I saw on the website and it looks like they have been in business since 1994 with 1500 licensees.  I guess they have only sold one hundred a year since their inception. 

I have reviewed the Training Material that was provided to the licensee and watched the DVDs of the training as well. I have attended the ongoing webinars as well. I am not sure, but it seems like its alway the same individuals who are doing these webinars. I would expect with 1500 licensees the success stories would come from more than 12 individuals. 

I marketed the various services to Physicians and General Businesses. I thought Medical would be a better fit as I have had 10 years of experience in this field. 

It looks like this is not really a business opportunity but a bundle of vendors being sold as a business opportunity, with some templates and spreadsheets that have been created to assist the licensee. 

The Patient Payment Plan revolves around a Client Server Software Program that isn&#039;t all that intuitive to use. There are many other companies offering the same solutions via the Internet. The same functionality can be found in the Intuit Quick Books application as well. 

The billing system they provide is hosted by www.medrium.com. It is a watered down version of the software that Medrium uses for their clients. You can view their software here. 

http://www.medrium.com/downloads/Medrium_Sales_Aide.pdf 

Also this vendor does billing for practices so they are in direct competition with the licensees. Why would a provider incur your overhead when it appears you can go directly with the vendor?

The patient Well-Care utilizes Send Out Cards. You can purchase their package for 400.00. If you attend any Chamber of Commerce meeting you will probaly run into 4 or 5 vendors who offer that service to businesses as well. 

The Profit Recovery Services is handled by a vendor called Money Quest. 

They do seem to be offering new services to the licensees. I applauded that I would have something else to offer physicians as well. I showed the RAC Audit to a Hospital Administrator friend of mine and while watching the presentation said she knew the person who provides the service and works for a competing firm. I did further research. 

 The person who is promoting these products works or is profiled at another company which looks to me like a competitor. She uses the same photo from www.ats.com &gt; Corporate Overview&gt;Management Team as she does in the Amercan Business Systems webinars.  I do not see where iTotalSolutions or ABS has any vendor relationship with this company (www.ats.com)

Look the premise is good. Retiring Baby Boomers yada yada yada. The reality is that most organizations have in place a system purchased from the larger vendors and are not looking to outsource to some home based billing organization. Just go to some of the venues like BNI, MGMA and Chamber meetings these people are everywhere and have the same story of inability of obtaining clients. 

My recommendation is to go out and figure out how to start a business, find your own vendors it will cost substantially less than the 20,000 that was spent by this licensee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading this go to </p>
<p><a href="http://dihasstories.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/american-billing-systems/" rel="nofollow">http://dihasstories.wordpress.com/2007/11/16/american-billing-systems/</a></p>
<p>It seems that this has been done before according to Ken. </p>
<p>Although I have not purchased a license from ABS direcltly I am working as a salesperson for one of their licensees. I took the position hoping to one day to purchase a license and run my own business in the near future. I liked what I saw on the website and it looks like they have been in business since 1994 with 1500 licensees.  I guess they have only sold one hundred a year since their inception. </p>
<p>I have reviewed the Training Material that was provided to the licensee and watched the DVDs of the training as well. I have attended the ongoing webinars as well. I am not sure, but it seems like its alway the same individuals who are doing these webinars. I would expect with 1500 licensees the success stories would come from more than 12 individuals. </p>
<p>I marketed the various services to Physicians and General Businesses. I thought Medical would be a better fit as I have had 10 years of experience in this field. </p>
<p>It looks like this is not really a business opportunity but a bundle of vendors being sold as a business opportunity, with some templates and spreadsheets that have been created to assist the licensee. </p>
<p>The Patient Payment Plan revolves around a Client Server Software Program that isn&#8217;t all that intuitive to use. There are many other companies offering the same solutions via the Internet. The same functionality can be found in the Intuit Quick Books application as well. </p>
<p>The billing system they provide is hosted by <a href="http://www.medrium.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.medrium.com</a>. It is a watered down version of the software that Medrium uses for their clients. You can view their software here. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.medrium.com/downloads/Medrium_Sales_Aide.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.medrium.com/downloads/Medrium_Sales_Aide.pdf</a> </p>
<p>Also this vendor does billing for practices so they are in direct competition with the licensees. Why would a provider incur your overhead when it appears you can go directly with the vendor?</p>
<p>The patient Well-Care utilizes Send Out Cards. You can purchase their package for 400.00. If you attend any Chamber of Commerce meeting you will probaly run into 4 or 5 vendors who offer that service to businesses as well. </p>
<p>The Profit Recovery Services is handled by a vendor called Money Quest. </p>
<p>They do seem to be offering new services to the licensees. I applauded that I would have something else to offer physicians as well. I showed the RAC Audit to a Hospital Administrator friend of mine and while watching the presentation said she knew the person who provides the service and works for a competing firm. I did further research. </p>
<p> The person who is promoting these products works or is profiled at another company which looks to me like a competitor. She uses the same photo from <a href="http://www.ats.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.ats.com</a> &gt; Corporate Overview&gt;Management Team as she does in the Amercan Business Systems webinars.  I do not see where iTotalSolutions or ABS has any vendor relationship with this company (www.ats.com)</p>
<p>Look the premise is good. Retiring Baby Boomers yada yada yada. The reality is that most organizations have in place a system purchased from the larger vendors and are not looking to outsource to some home based billing organization. Just go to some of the venues like BNI, MGMA and Chamber meetings these people are everywhere and have the same story of inability of obtaining clients. </p>
<p>My recommendation is to go out and figure out how to start a business, find your own vendors it will cost substantially less than the 20,000 that was spent by this licensee.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ABS and Adam Phillips should try to correct the mistakes they have made in the past with their existing licensees instead of ignoring the problems, I gave them the opportunity and they have never returned my call.  
I have had better luck with buying my own billing software and using a clearinghouse that I have found on the internet and I think you can use the same clearinghouse as ABS uses if you like them, and I did this for under $1,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ABS and Adam Phillips should try to correct the mistakes they have made in the past with their existing licensees instead of ignoring the problems, I gave them the opportunity and they have never returned my call.<br />
I have had better luck with buying my own billing software and using a clearinghouse that I have found on the internet and I think you can use the same clearinghouse as ABS uses if you like them, and I did this for under $1,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Dakim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dakim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 02:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Adam for the informative and timely response.  Sorry about the bounce back, I&quot;ll look into it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Adam for the informative and timely response.  Sorry about the bounce back, I&#8221;ll look into it.</p>
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